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the oldest and strongest human emotion

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is fear the oldest and strongest type of

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fear is trepidation of young when we

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were children our parents told us that

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monsters didn't exist but we were sure

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that something is lurking under the bed

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or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of your cane my

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name is Juan stripper join me as I

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examine unexplained creatures strange

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manifestations and remarkable realities

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovered to strange lands seeking not

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for new territory but for new knowledge

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of the supernatural come on board as we

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begin this adventure together hey folks

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good evening and welcome to another

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episode of arcane radio where we explore

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the unexplained Corona paranormal King

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radio network I'm your host launch

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strickler coming to you with in a cannon

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shot of historical Gettysburg in the

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anomalous state of Pennsylvania thank

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introduce my guest I want to describe an

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encounter account that was recently sent

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to me it is truly a bizarre cryptid

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encounter that was experienced by an

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extended family in rural Mississippi and

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actually the incident may have resulted

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in the suicide and other strange

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behavior so here goes the witness stated

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that was about 12 years old at the time

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my aunt had cancer cancer and my mom

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brother and I went to stay with them

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they lived on a small farm in a very

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secluded part of Mississippi there any

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day we didn't want to be in the house my

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younger cousins didn't like seeing their

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mom while she was doing her treatments

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so we'd go out and play in the woods or

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ride horses we were there for about four

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days so on the second day my uncle came

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home he worked on a boat and and ran

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outside grabbed us and locked us in a

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room in the house his reason for this

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was that he said there's something

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killing animals in the woods could be a

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big cat or bear I'm going to kill it now

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he was the most stable

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man ever and eventually ended up taking

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his own life about four years later now

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while we were all trapped in the house

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that night he was out in the woods and

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we could hear the animals on the farm

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making so much noise now this wasn't

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normal happy animal noises either my mom

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was in the room with my aunt and they

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were watching a movie we went into the

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hallway near your room to tell them we

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were scared but almost instantly it

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started the screams and prayers flew out

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of that room apparently my mom and my

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cousin saw something at the foot of the

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bed trying to grab my hand

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now they described it as a grey with

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long fingers and a big mouth now when

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this happened I ran to the home phone to

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call my dad who was living in Shanghai

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at the time I was so scared and all the

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adults were screaming I looked out the

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wind in the back room to see if any one

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was on the form all I saw were both

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horses and two dogs laying down they

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were all spread out in the dog's fur

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closest reports by the bedroom which

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made no sense they were on a chain

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closer to the dog houses but they knew

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sworn I saw my uncle in the distance and

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what's going on I ran outside and

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stumbled out the porch I saw both dogs

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lying there and they looked like they

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were sleeping from afar but up close I

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crushed there were they were big farm

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dogs and you would you know and that

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looked like it was cut now my cousin ran

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out after me had told told me that we

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had to go into the barn because she

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barn where the horses were supposed to

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be and we got there and one of them was

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very obviously dead its head and neck

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were hardly recognizable the other house

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honest I looked like a big giant bear

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second storey the barn decided that we

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were going to look out the window into

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the woods to see if her dad you know it

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had been her since we thought we saw him

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five or so minutes when we saw what we

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could only describe as a very long

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legged long torso dog running into the

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field in front of us almost like a deer

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figure we saw her dad walking through

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the house and so we followed we screamed

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at him but he ignored us we told him

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about the animals but he'll renew it he

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was very dirty and had to shoot a cow

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that night well got into the house and

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everybody was sitting in the dining room

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screwing about what had happened

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me and my cousin kept quiet until my

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aunt said it was a demon or a skinless

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man I told her it looked like a

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long-legged dog or deer and she told me

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it was going to come in the house and

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find me I was really scared my mom and

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her got into a fight about it now we

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were told it was a wolf or a bear that

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killed the animals and we couldn't go

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outside anymore those nights so I don't

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know what this was they ran into this

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Mississippi quite frankly I haven't got

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a clue of what this was so you know this

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some of the weird stuff we've been

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these these pale white crawlers or

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humanoids we've got some actually we've

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got a case in Pennsylvania we're looking

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into now so you know just stay tuned

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maybe we'll have some answers and some

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more reports so tonight I welcome

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Pennsylvania UFO anomalies investigator

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and colleague Stan Gordon 2rk and radio

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now Stan began his interest in the UFO

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subject another strange in this

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incidents at the age of 10 in 1950

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he began the field investigations UFOs

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and other mysterious events in 1965 and

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recovery incident that occurred near

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Kecksburg Pennsylvania now Stan the

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former Pennsylvania State Director and

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move on and hasn't been involved with

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the investigations of thousands of

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mysterious encounters throughout the

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books really mysterious Pennsylvania

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silent invasion the Pennsylvania UFO

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encounters Pennsylvania's unknown

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creatures well the combination of his

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info sustained thanks for coming on

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so huh you you heard what I stated in

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that story and I want to get your

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opinion on these white tail humanoids

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of reading that we're looking into now

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have you been getting similar reports

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foot tall very skinny hairless humanoid

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and going back well this all started

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have been in the fall of 2017

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even though years before I probably had

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a few other somewhat similar reports but

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very detailed report started in the fall

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of 2017 and one of those cases that came

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to my attention initially was from a

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police officer on patrol here in

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Southwest Pennsylvania he called me as

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soon soon after he observed this

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and he was pretty shook up had no idea

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what he said he never seen his life like

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it before but he's on patrol in an area

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in a rural area that he commonly

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of light on the ground and he stopped

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his patrol car because he never recalled

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everything any artificial lighting like

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that in the area before and as he's

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looking at this thing there's this round

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sphere does around ball of light

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a very well very skinny hairless sickly

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good-looking creature a humanoid

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creature about 6 feet or taller skeletal

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initially lying on its belly on the

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ground with his head face toward the

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road and then it stood up and he could

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looming upper part of the body and he

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was stunned he said they had looked

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possibly egg-shaped but pretty round the

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lights seemed to be dull white

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chest and a section of the arms he could

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not see the hand to chest look good by

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18 inches across the waist appeared to

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be small but the arms were abnormally

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long the long limbs looked skeletal with

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said when it turned he said I never

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sighting move so fast in my life

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it was there and was gone he said I

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assume it ran but I couldn't see the

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lake at that point but he said it was

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there and was gone and interestingly

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that's almost the same wording that

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numerous people have talked to me about

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four years specially in recent years

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about other cryptids and and Bigfoot

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owners where these things suddenly

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appear out of nowhere and in a matter of

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seconds they're just not there anymore

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and that's what's so amazing but that

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was the first of a series of incidents

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see another report I believe about 20

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miles away from another person who

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apparently had no knowledge of this

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report and indicated something similar

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coming up a little width and approach

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this person about 30 feet away other

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reports were coming in and then it was

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outside of Pittsburgh at a very wooded

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rural area and I I got to see the

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location and this fella who's spent

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Spencer's life in the woods he lives in

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the woods he loves the woods he's very

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would the deer and all the wildlife and

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it was up there that evening and he's

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hearing the sound of something walking

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but it's not like a deer that's more

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bipedal and it seemed very odd and he

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decided he's going to get album woods

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and go back to his home so it goes down

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to his house he got in there for a few

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minutes he's sitting at the kitchen

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table getting ready to eat something he

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looked at the back door say here's this

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big glass backdoor no drapes or anything

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line is completely unstructured and

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here's this creature same description

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six seven foot tall skeletal thin

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hairless it's crouched down on all fours

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with glowing yellow eyes during right

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into his face and he said it it went

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down all fours and scampered around the

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house and couldn't see any further other

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reports were coming in now you had a

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report for Allegheny County

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I've had other reports of other areas

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and has a report so fast no I haven't

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had any in recent months but there were

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a number of incidents through 2018 and

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2019 and I'm hearing other some reports

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them across the country so these reports

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are very intriguing I know there's been

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a understand I'm somebody sourced I've

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been at least two reports with glowing

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head to reports of glowing eyes and

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other times they're singing them and

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they're seeing no facial features on the

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creature but it's interesting we're

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getting similar reports from very

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credible people so once again here's

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another very strange creature a cryptid

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that people from widespread areas

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unknown to each other are reporting and

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as I've been saying for years and years

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there's something more going on here you

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can't have so many types of unknown

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animals and you and I deal with these

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all the time

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Thunderbird sightings Bigfoot reports

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all kind of other weird cryptids are

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being reported this type of skeletal

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humanoid thing the winged humanoids and

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then the outer place animals like the

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Black Panther sightings that continue to

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be reported even in recent months and

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but the situation is you've got so many

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credible people that are seeing them

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there's got to be something else we're

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dealing with then and again we've talked

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about this in the past and there's a lot

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of data I've looked into hundreds of

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these cases of Pennsylvania many

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2018-2019 a lot of reports coming in and

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even this time here in 2020 and more or

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more data suggest again reelected as I

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am the saying that we're dealing with

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something has a physical and a

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non-physical component to it for a lack

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of a better term we might be doing

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whistling this interdimensional yeah

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well you know I agree with you a hundred

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percent these things you know they just

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they just seem to pop up you know and

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then just disappear and you know there's

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something that's something that people

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haven't seen before a specific area but

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then again this this report that we

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received recently though I think it's

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probably about the two-year old report

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was in the French Creek area that parked

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over in Montgomery County and this for

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the better ward is white me see looking

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pale humanoid was seen and I was near a

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resonance and this thing most likely had

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killed an animal or a pet and had done

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some other things but had been seen

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several times the most unusual thing

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about it is people take shots at it and

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it doesn't seem to faze it so that

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sounds very familiar to the yup right

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k-9 reports we have received for years

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where these things get shot at nothing

352
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happens to them you know the only thing

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I can compare it to our reports that

354
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I've received in the past that has to do

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with the the Windigo

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sightings up in Canada and of course

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I've gotten a lot of sightings up there

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these when to go like being so I don't

359
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know but it's similar to that I mean

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what are your thoughts on that well

361
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again going back to the the massive wave

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here in 1973 in the 1974 that the

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massive Bigfoot outbreak that I

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investigated and that's when so many

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strange details began to come to my

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attention then I was not looking for I

367
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mean all these UFO sightings were going

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on across Pennsylvania hundreds of

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hundreds of reports and back then of

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course as we all know there was no

371
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internet there was no cell phones many

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reports initially came in to the police

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departments and that's when I had my my

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first research groups and we had many

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scientists and engineers and research

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people and luckily by 1973 I founded a

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group in 1970 and we had expanded the

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kind of the whole state of Pennsylvania

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so we recovered quite well and we had

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investigative teams in many cases on the

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scene within minutes two hours after

382
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they occurred and a lot of this was well

383
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documented the newspapers at the time

384
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even the local news or alien people were

385
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covering some more investigations and it

386
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was amazing what was going on and when I

387
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got into all that back in those days and

388
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I had been investigating Bigfoot

389
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sightings in Pennsylvania in the 1960s I

390
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had always thought from what I knew the

391
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Bigfoot was very likely some type of

392
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unknown animal hmm well as all these

393
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events of 73 begin to unfold from

394
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widespread areas from people had no way

395
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of knowing each other odd things began

396
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to come to our attention one of the

397
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first things was we get out on the scene

398
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there are betrayals or footprints many

399
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with very large strides between them on

400
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all type of ground condition the

401
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cleaning at times in the winter

402
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heavy fresh snow and you followed these

403
00:18:14,399 --> 00:18:12,850
trails of footprints which was suddenly

404
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stopped vanish and disappear

405
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there's no way in the kindig

406
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we found that it could have been

407
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fabricated and these kind of cases by

408
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the way of continuing way to the last

409
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year I mean it's it's nonstop even in

410
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Pennsylvania suspense amazing cases and

411
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then anyhow then we began to have that

412
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weird pattern show up with a UFO

413
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sighting in a particular area and then

414
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minutes hours and days later you have a

415
00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:41,140
Bigfoot sighting or vice versa and then

416
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we had those really strange cases we've

417
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talked about in the past with UFOs or

418
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Bigfoot scene together at the same time

419
00:18:53,550 --> 00:18:51,130
in place but and why don't recommend

420
00:18:55,470 --> 00:18:53,560
people shooting a Bigfoot there were

421
00:18:58,350 --> 00:18:55,480
numerous incidents during that time

422
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people period when many people did they

423
00:19:03,630 --> 00:19:01,060
were using anything from small side arms

424
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at 22s the very high powered weapons

425
00:19:09,990 --> 00:19:06,280
30.6 and shotguns and I talked about

426
00:19:12,930 --> 00:19:10,000
that my cell invasion book and in no

427
00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:12,940
case did anybody bring one down in case

428
00:19:16,490 --> 00:19:14,830
they would fall down and get up and

429
00:19:19,020 --> 00:19:16,500
generally walk away from the person

430
00:19:22,650 --> 00:19:19,030
completely unarmed and then you had

431
00:19:24,510 --> 00:19:22,660
those very strange cases where people

432
00:19:26,670 --> 00:19:24,520
shot at them and they were just suddenly

433
00:19:28,860 --> 00:19:26,680
vanish and physically disappear or

434
00:19:32,130 --> 00:19:28,870
disappear two bright flash of white and

435
00:19:35,970 --> 00:19:32,140
that's when those real odd weird things

436
00:19:37,530 --> 00:19:35,980
begin to come my way and I began to

437
00:19:39,780 --> 00:19:37,540
realize we're dealing with something

438
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:39,790
that's much trated to than just an

439
00:19:45,660 --> 00:19:43,330
unknown animal yeah and these cases have

440
00:19:47,460 --> 00:19:45,670
been going on for years and years I mean

441
00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:47,470
I started writing about those incidents

442
00:19:52,650 --> 00:19:49,990
back in the 70s now was untouched back

443
00:19:54,210 --> 00:19:52,660
then with many researchers across the

444
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:54,220
country who were well known back in

445
00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:56,290
those days and some of them from other

446
00:20:00,090 --> 00:19:58,090
countries and many of those

447
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:00,100
investigators in a Bigfoot field they

448
00:20:04,770 --> 00:20:02,050
had similar kind of reports they were

449
00:20:06,810 --> 00:20:04,780
aware of them but they were reluctant to

450
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:06,820
discuss them or publish them because

451
00:20:10,770 --> 00:20:08,530
they were afraid to get in trouble with

452
00:20:12,900 --> 00:20:10,780
their peers we laughed at my position

453
00:20:14,790 --> 00:20:12,910
always been I don't know what we're

454
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:14,800
dealing with this is what we're finding

455
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:17,530
here's the information do what you want

456
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:20,170
with it but I was hoping that it would

457
00:20:24,450 --> 00:20:22,450
encourage other researchers or witnesses

458
00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:24,460
to come forward with the reports while

459
00:20:28,830 --> 00:20:26,710
these cases continue to go on year after

460
00:20:29,580 --> 00:20:28,840
year and there's other researchers out

461
00:20:32,549 --> 00:20:29,590
there very well

462
00:20:35,370 --> 00:20:32,559
well with these cases and they're going

463
00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:35,380
on more and more in the last 2018 and

464
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:38,080
2019 many incidents here in Pennsylvania

465
00:20:42,180 --> 00:20:39,970
I can go over some of those with you but

466
00:20:45,810 --> 00:20:42,190
in all parts of the country it's going

467
00:20:49,169 --> 00:20:45,820
on more and more and one of the things

468
00:20:51,659 --> 00:20:49,179
that keeps showing up from the Bigfoot

469
00:20:53,549 --> 00:20:51,669
community is that many Bigfoot

470
00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:53,559
investigators not only in Pennsylvania

471
00:20:57,390 --> 00:20:56,080
but again many parts of the country are

472
00:21:00,120 --> 00:20:57,400
telling me that they have been out in

473
00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:00,130
the woods searching for Bigfoot evidence

474
00:21:05,250 --> 00:21:02,230
or investigating Bigfoot incidents and

475
00:21:07,230 --> 00:21:05,260
they're encountering strange small

476
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:07,240
spheres of light orbs of light other

477
00:21:12,269 --> 00:21:10,450
strange light phenomena and this is

478
00:21:13,860 --> 00:21:12,279
something that more and more people are

479
00:21:15,659 --> 00:21:13,870
telling me about and and I'm seeing

480
00:21:17,639 --> 00:21:15,669
quite a change in attitude now from many

481
00:21:20,159 --> 00:21:17,649
of the Bigfoot community because for

482
00:21:22,430 --> 00:21:20,169
years and years people in the Bigfoot

483
00:21:25,169 --> 00:21:22,440
field didn't want associate Bigfoot UFOs

484
00:21:27,419 --> 00:21:25,179
but more more than talking about it now

485
00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:27,429
and I think many of them asking the same

486
00:21:31,860 --> 00:21:29,200
question after so many years that I did

487
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:31,870
years ago where's the body it makes no

488
00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:34,330
sense these things are being seen for

489
00:21:38,279 --> 00:21:36,130
how many years all across the United

490
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:38,289
States throughout the world and nobody's

491
00:21:42,510 --> 00:21:40,450
ever come up with a body and we know

492
00:21:44,610 --> 00:21:42,520
that there are many cases which give

493
00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:44,620
suggestions as to why we don't have a

494
00:21:49,529 --> 00:21:47,049
body we're dealing with a phenomena

495
00:21:51,510 --> 00:21:49,539
that's far beyond our present scientific

496
00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:51,520
understanding it's so strange it

497
00:21:56,730 --> 00:21:54,880
protects itself well you know you're

498
00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:56,740
preaching acquiring me because you know

499
00:22:00,899 --> 00:21:58,570
you and I have been talking about this

500
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:00,909
for a long time now and we've had people

501
00:22:05,580 --> 00:22:03,250
stopping at what we've been saying at

502
00:22:08,610 --> 00:22:05,590
the same time but like you said there

503
00:22:10,350 --> 00:22:08,620
are people changing their minds and a

504
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:10,360
lot of it is be people have been

505
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:12,159
investigating Bigfoot for a long long

506
00:22:18,930 --> 00:22:16,210
time and the the supernatural aspect of

507
00:22:23,450 --> 00:22:18,940
these this phenomena is starting to gain

508
00:22:26,399 --> 00:22:23,460
some you know some more fans I'd say

509
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:26,409
that's right but one thing I want to

510
00:22:32,130 --> 00:22:29,770
point out when we're dealing with these

511
00:22:35,070 --> 00:22:32,140
UFO and Bigfoot cases I am NOT

512
00:22:36,659 --> 00:22:35,080
suggesting that Bigfoot is a passenger

513
00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:36,669
flying around in a spaceship from

514
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:37,510
another planet

515
00:22:41,130 --> 00:22:39,730
we don't know what we're dealing with we

516
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:41,140
don't know for sure what the UFOs

517
00:22:44,850 --> 00:22:43,120
represent for many you know

518
00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:44,860
best gated thousands and thousands of

519
00:22:49,530 --> 00:22:47,110
UFO cases I've been doing this this year

520
00:22:51,930 --> 00:22:49,540
61 years I've never seen you up for a

521
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:51,940
Bigfoot myself surprising to most people

522
00:22:58,770 --> 00:22:54,880
but there may be more than one origin to

523
00:23:00,930 --> 00:22:58,780
the unknown UFO category and we just

524
00:23:03,390 --> 00:23:00,940
don't know what we're dealing with I can

525
00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:03,400
tell you this what I found years ago is

526
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:06,880
that many close range low-level UFO

527
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:10,450
sightings and many close encounters with

528
00:23:16,770 --> 00:23:14,290
Bigfoot and out of place animals such as

529
00:23:19,710 --> 00:23:16,780
Black Panthers and other cryptids

530
00:23:22,530 --> 00:23:19,720
commonly occur in the vicinity of high

531
00:23:24,570 --> 00:23:22,540
energy sources and that's continuing to

532
00:23:27,930 --> 00:23:24,580
show up all the time so you've got many

533
00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:27,940
cases around again high tension power

534
00:23:33,780 --> 00:23:31,020
lines and power plants and gas lines and

535
00:23:36,060 --> 00:23:33,790
reservoirs and radio towers it goes on

536
00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:36,070
and on and on I have no doubt whatsoever

537
00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:38,559
we're dealing with a phenomena that has

538
00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:41,830
an energy connection to it well you know

539
00:23:45,870 --> 00:23:43,809
that's what I've been saying about a lot

540
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:45,880
of cases as well I mean you know I did

541
00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:48,130
you know you first of all well you're

542
00:23:51,930 --> 00:23:50,320
always cases that had possible connects

543
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:51,940
of you up to a big Florida's Presque

544
00:23:57,450 --> 00:23:55,210
Isle yeah you're eerie and of course I

545
00:24:00,660 --> 00:23:57,460
did an investigation of an area up in a

546
00:24:03,630 --> 00:24:00,670
Nova Scotia where this farmer had

547
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:03,640
actually seen a number of you I mean a

548
00:24:10,110 --> 00:24:07,690
number of UFOs and Bigfoot and didn't

549
00:24:13,140 --> 00:24:10,120
really make the connection until he had

550
00:24:17,940 --> 00:24:13,150
to someone's stepping out of one out of

551
00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:17,950
a circular craft that had died had

552
00:24:24,660 --> 00:24:20,260
descended across the street from his

553
00:24:26,510 --> 00:24:24,670
home in a field and you know the guy he

554
00:24:28,830 --> 00:24:26,520
swore up and down that this Bigfoot

555
00:24:30,690 --> 00:24:28,840
stepped out of this thing he also saw

556
00:24:33,210 --> 00:24:30,700
another creature step out with of it

557
00:24:36,660 --> 00:24:33,220
that had a foot print that kind of

558
00:24:40,530 --> 00:24:36,670
looked like on a 200 pound turkey I mean

559
00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:40,540
the same type of three-toed footprint

560
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:43,120
that up that turkey would make it's

561
00:24:47,730 --> 00:24:45,490
strange but you hear this stuff you keep

562
00:24:49,380 --> 00:24:47,740
hearing these things you know in there

563
00:24:53,070 --> 00:24:49,390
they are hard to believe at some point

564
00:24:54,350 --> 00:24:53,080
but you know we do keep doing it yeah

565
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:54,360
well that's the whole thing you know

566
00:24:59,250 --> 00:24:57,010
many many people I've interviewed

567
00:25:02,730 --> 00:24:59,260
it's the little details that I'm getting

568
00:25:05,010 --> 00:25:02,740
and over many many years and such

569
00:25:07,020 --> 00:25:05,020
strange details but they keep showing up

570
00:25:08,190 --> 00:25:07,030
and you know I as I mentioned you in the

571
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:08,200
last few years I've one of those

572
00:25:13,050 --> 00:25:10,570
lectures I do is called strange aspects

573
00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:13,060
of elusive Bigfoot and I get into so

574
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:15,190
many areas of Bigfoot that most people

575
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:17,440
have never heard about before or many

576
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:18,970
people a Bigfoot field if they know

577
00:25:23,310 --> 00:25:20,530
about it don't want to talk about it and

578
00:25:25,530 --> 00:25:23,320
it there's significant information on it

579
00:25:27,780 --> 00:25:25,540
from all over the country but again not

580
00:25:30,300 --> 00:25:27,790
well-known most of this is based on my

581
00:25:32,370 --> 00:25:30,310
investigations here in Pennsylvania and

582
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:32,380
you talk about the footprints you just

583
00:25:37,860 --> 00:25:36,010
mentioned three-toed well back in the 73

584
00:25:39,990 --> 00:25:37,870
we had a major outbreak there were

585
00:25:41,910 --> 00:25:40,000
multitudes of incidents with the

586
00:25:44,490 --> 00:25:41,920
three-toed tract showing up and I have

587
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:44,500
that one cast that I made when this all

588
00:25:50,990 --> 00:25:47,530
began and this all that major event

589
00:25:53,850 --> 00:25:51,000
began with a phone call that I received

590
00:25:56,370 --> 00:25:53,860
let me see I received a call I believe

591
00:25:59,910 --> 00:25:56,380
was August 7th the incident happened to

592
00:26:01,260 --> 00:25:59,920
ly 31st of 73 in a rural area actually

593
00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:01,270
only a few miles from where I live

594
00:26:06,150 --> 00:26:03,310
outside of Greensburg Pennsylvania and

595
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:06,160
the man was it was a warm night the man

596
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:08,650
was in his rural home shaving early

597
00:26:12,510 --> 00:26:10,690
because he got up early for work began

598
00:26:15,540 --> 00:26:12,520
to smell the spun ear off an odor like

599
00:26:17,610 --> 00:26:15,550
rotten cucumber the the window was open

600
00:26:18,990 --> 00:26:17,620
but the screen was in the bathroom he

601
00:26:21,540 --> 00:26:19,000
happened to turn to look at the window

602
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:21,550
because he's two huge glowing red eyes

603
00:26:26,370 --> 00:26:23,410
staring at him but the wind is eight

604
00:26:28,020 --> 00:26:26,380
feet off the ground and they had several

605
00:26:29,550 --> 00:26:28,030
dogs out there the dogs didn't make a

606
00:26:31,980 --> 00:26:29,560
sound which they all thought was very

607
00:26:34,650 --> 00:26:31,990
very strange well he ended up being

608
00:26:37,170 --> 00:26:34,660
pretty scared and shook up ended up in

609
00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:37,180
the hospital and he he didn't get help

610
00:26:39,810 --> 00:26:38,470
about a week later I went out to

611
00:26:43,020 --> 00:26:39,820
interview him that day when I got the

612
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:43,030
call he was still pretty upset I had

613
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:45,970
found out that several weeks before a

614
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:48,850
few young fellows had taken a shortcut

615
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:51,250
through the woods over to the local mall

616
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:53,200
and they heard this commotion in the

617
00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:54,610
woods and he thought it was a deer and I

618
00:26:58,260 --> 00:26:56,110
began to throw some rocks in to scare

619
00:27:01,950 --> 00:26:58,270
the deer but instead the seven eight

620
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:01,960
foot tall skinny tall hairy thing walks

621
00:27:06,990 --> 00:27:04,690
across the road not behind the house so

622
00:27:08,190 --> 00:27:07,000
I was able to interview the boys and I

623
00:27:09,630 --> 00:27:08,200
got permission to go up and look around

624
00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:09,640
that property and a few of the kids

625
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:10,480
followed me up

626
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:14,410
and stay up there for a while and I

627
00:27:18,330 --> 00:27:16,240
remember the ground conditions were not

628
00:27:20,490 --> 00:27:18,340
very good about readily when I happen to

629
00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:20,500
look down here was a partial footprint

630
00:27:26,010 --> 00:27:23,440
and here was one complete track of the

631
00:27:29,159 --> 00:27:26,020
strangest footprint I had ever seen it

632
00:27:31,140 --> 00:27:29,169
was 13 inches long 8 inches wide clearly

633
00:27:33,270 --> 00:27:31,150
three toes I mean the depth of those

634
00:27:36,780 --> 00:27:33,280
toes wood was amazing you can clearly

635
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,790
see them on the casting and I got on the

636
00:27:41,010 --> 00:27:38,559
radio call one of my helpers come out we

637
00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:41,020
took measurements took photographs made

638
00:27:46,620 --> 00:27:44,710
a cast so that was the first one who

639
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:46,630
showed up but over the months to follow

640
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:50,080
from very widespread areas three-toed

641
00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:52,570
tracks are showing up but we also had

642
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:54,640
five towed tracks and then there were

643
00:28:01,770 --> 00:27:58,330
some other very strange tracks that were

644
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:01,780
not normal if you can call normal track

645
00:28:06,299 --> 00:28:04,450
so we had seen before 335 pros there was

646
00:28:08,490 --> 00:28:06,309
something even different and there was

647
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:08,500
no indication these were fabricated yes

648
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:10,090
there were hoaxes the mainly that was

649
00:28:14,610 --> 00:28:12,490
after some of the news coverage began in

650
00:28:16,530 --> 00:28:14,620
the local papers and kids were out there

651
00:28:18,570 --> 00:28:16,540
and they were cutting you know

652
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:18,580
footprints out of wood and you could

653
00:28:22,620 --> 00:28:20,080
easily tell the difference there was no

654
00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:22,630
comparison and so many of these

655
00:28:29,130 --> 00:28:25,380
footprints were very very intriguing and

656
00:28:30,990 --> 00:28:29,140
there was one very very large footprint

657
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:31,000
I remember from little village of

658
00:28:34,740 --> 00:28:32,530
Hutchinson P I got a call from the

659
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:34,750
police that there have been a series of

660
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:37,120
very big footprints found down that area

661
00:28:42,030 --> 00:28:39,370
so we smite team went down that night

662
00:28:44,159 --> 00:28:42,040
and it was like living a sci-fi movie

663
00:28:48,930 --> 00:28:44,169
line I remember that night it was very

664
00:28:50,820 --> 00:28:48,940
warm very hazy very foggy area small

665
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:50,830
little village community I bet you the

666
00:28:54,270 --> 00:28:52,570
whole village was there that the kids

667
00:28:55,020 --> 00:28:54,280
were there in her pajamas or people

668
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:55,030
standing around

669
00:28:59,669 --> 00:28:57,490
they had flares lit up illuminating

670
00:29:02,610 --> 00:28:59,679
these giant footprints in the grounds

671
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:02,620
and we made a cast of one of those

672
00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:03,130
tracks

673
00:29:08,430 --> 00:29:06,190
it was three toed but completely

674
00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:08,440
different than any of the tracks we had

675
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:10,150
ever seen and be honest with you I

676
00:29:14,010 --> 00:29:11,679
didn't know what to make of them I

677
00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:14,020
didn't see any any indication they were

678
00:29:20,220 --> 00:29:15,910
fabricated the joints on the toes were

679
00:29:23,250 --> 00:29:20,230
clearly defined in the ground and years

680
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:23,260
later I was in touch with a prominent

681
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:24,010
Bigfoot

682
00:29:28,170 --> 00:29:25,930
sir at the time for Mountain California

683
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:28,180
and years later that person stepped me

684
00:29:32,610 --> 00:29:30,010
photographs and they were almost

685
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:32,620
identical to those footprints that I

686
00:29:39,420 --> 00:29:35,440
have made a cast of the 73 so once again

687
00:29:43,170 --> 00:29:39,430
you can't have so many types of unknown

688
00:29:45,180 --> 00:29:43,180
animals running around the country but

689
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:45,190
yet we're dealing with something where

690
00:29:49,650 --> 00:29:46,810
you keep getting this strange evidence

691
00:29:51,450 --> 00:29:49,660
showing up so you can't eliminate it so

692
00:29:54,810 --> 00:29:51,460
there had to be another explanation and

693
00:29:58,050 --> 00:29:54,820
what it is none of us really know yeah

694
00:30:00,990 --> 00:29:58,060
that's true you know you've been coming

695
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:01,000
becoming quite a regular on small-town

696
00:30:06,150 --> 00:30:03,520
monsters films recently of course you

697
00:30:09,930 --> 00:30:06,160
did the Chestnut Ridge film and more

698
00:30:12,270 --> 00:30:09,940
recently on the trail of UFOs and you

699
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:12,280
did some pretty extensive interviews on

700
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:15,490
there and on there you talked about the

701
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:17,650
incident that you talked about this war

702
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:19,450
with the woman who had taken a shot at

703
00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:22,000
one Bigfoot and it just turned into

704
00:30:28,140 --> 00:30:25,840
light yeah well that's that's wasn't the

705
00:30:30,780 --> 00:30:28,150
key case over the years of the many may

706
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:30,790
have investigated that was the case that

707
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:34,510
really convinced myself and my team that

708
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:36,490
we're dealing with something that's much

709
00:30:40,410 --> 00:30:38,890
stranger than just an unknown animal and

710
00:30:43,950 --> 00:30:40,420
I remember that case very well was

711
00:30:46,530 --> 00:30:43,960
February 6 1974 up in Fayette County so

712
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:46,540
again along the Chestnut Ridge which

713
00:30:51,210 --> 00:30:49,450
you've heard me mention about before it

714
00:30:53,940 --> 00:30:51,220
continues to be one of the most active

715
00:30:56,790 --> 00:30:53,950
areas probably in the country for yearly

716
00:30:59,610 --> 00:30:56,800
phenomena UFOs Bigfoot cryptid

717
00:31:02,220 --> 00:30:59,620
encounters other anomalies and it's a

718
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:02,230
hundred miles long it goes through

719
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:05,170
Westmoreland Fayette and Indiana County

720
00:31:09,210 --> 00:31:07,360
and Southwest PA and continues down

721
00:31:11,610 --> 00:31:09,220
outside of Morgantown near Preston

722
00:31:14,250 --> 00:31:11,620
County West Virginia but a lot of the

723
00:31:16,050 --> 00:31:14,260
activity and the the reports I get very

724
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:16,060
commonly is in the Westmoreland Fayette

725
00:31:21,810 --> 00:31:18,880
County side and both counties about a

726
00:31:23,850 --> 00:31:21,820
long long history of these type of

727
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:23,860
incidents with clipped as a particular

728
00:31:28,980 --> 00:31:26,650
and UFOs the the earliest first-hand

729
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:28,990
account I have on record as somebody who

730
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:31,840
actually encountered a Bigfoot goes back

731
00:31:37,710 --> 00:31:34,770
to Indiana had in Fayette County of 1931

732
00:31:39,930 --> 00:31:37,720
but there are many many earlier councils

733
00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:39,940
in newspapers and from other people that

734
00:31:46,110 --> 00:31:41,679
myself and other researchers have

735
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:46,120
interviewed but that incident near

736
00:31:54,629 --> 00:31:49,210
Ohiopyle I remember that night very well

737
00:31:56,610 --> 00:31:54,639
and I got call on it and we proceeded up

738
00:31:59,820 --> 00:31:56,620
to the site the next morning this

739
00:32:02,340 --> 00:31:59,830
happened during the time period when des

740
00:32:04,110 --> 00:32:02,350
was a big national trucker strike so a

741
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:04,120
lot of people remember it there was gas

742
00:32:07,950 --> 00:32:05,679
rationing going on around the country

743
00:32:09,299 --> 00:32:07,960
and there was a lot of violence in the

744
00:32:12,029 --> 00:32:09,309
highways across the country including

745
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:12,039
Pennsylvania so the National Guard and

746
00:32:16,590 --> 00:32:13,450
the state police were patrolling

747
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:16,600
together they both responded to this

748
00:32:19,049 --> 00:32:17,200
incident

749
00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:19,059
I couldn't get gas welded till the next

750
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:20,710
morning so I couldn't get up to the

751
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:23,289
earlier next morning myself another team

752
00:32:29,940 --> 00:32:25,570
member got out there very early but when

753
00:32:31,470 --> 00:32:29,950
I found out was that this woman was in

754
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:31,480
her little cabin home she lived there

755
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:33,610
for years al is he lived in the woods

756
00:32:38,190 --> 00:32:35,710
all life she knew animals well she was a

757
00:32:40,619 --> 00:32:38,200
good shot pretty much fearless not of

758
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:40,629
pretty much afraid of anything it was a

759
00:32:44,340 --> 00:32:42,250
normal evening she was sitting there in

760
00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:44,350
her little cabin home watching

761
00:32:50,639 --> 00:32:47,200
television when he heard his noise on

762
00:32:52,169 --> 00:32:50,649
her front porch there were some pop cans

763
00:32:55,499 --> 00:32:52,179
out there something stalking the pop

764
00:32:57,210 --> 00:32:55,509
cans around so she figured well been a

765
00:32:58,860 --> 00:32:57,220
pack of dogs came through a couple weeks

766
00:33:00,360 --> 00:32:58,870
before she figured those dogs were back

767
00:33:03,060 --> 00:33:00,370
and she thought you know what I just

768
00:33:04,529 --> 00:33:03,070
grabbed my shotgun and I'll load one

769
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:04,539
chamber or shoot over her head together

770
00:33:10,409 --> 00:33:07,570
those dogs away so she does that she

771
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:10,419
loads her shotgun and she goes over and

772
00:33:15,629 --> 00:33:12,490
hits the switch on the wall to turn on

773
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:15,639
the porch light she goes out and walks

774
00:33:21,629 --> 00:33:17,490
opens the front door steps out and

775
00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:21,639
there's no dogs but a couple feet in

776
00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:23,769
front of her maybe less here's this huge

777
00:33:29,850 --> 00:33:26,409
seven foot tall hair-covered creature

778
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:29,860
and sooner she turned the light on it

779
00:33:35,549 --> 00:33:33,129
raises arms up above his head and her

780
00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:35,559
first reaction was she shot into it she

781
00:33:40,159 --> 00:33:37,929
tried directly into the creature she

782
00:33:43,230 --> 00:33:40,169
said there's this bright flash of light

783
00:33:45,090 --> 00:33:43,240
like the flash on a camera and the

784
00:33:47,340 --> 00:33:45,100
creature physically disappeared right in

785
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:47,350
front of her he said there was no odd

786
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:50,250
smells no outs odd sounds

787
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:52,890
her in-laws lived about a hundred feet

788
00:33:57,410 --> 00:33:54,510
away they heard the gunshots they call

789
00:33:59,240 --> 00:33:57,420
her answer what she was shooting at her

790
00:34:01,340 --> 00:33:59,250
son-in-law grabs a sidearm starts

791
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:01,350
walking down that that dark road towards

792
00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:03,450
her cab and he sees a shadowy figure

793
00:34:07,310 --> 00:34:05,220
running down the road away from him down

794
00:34:09,409 --> 00:34:07,320
the road he gets down a little further

795
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:09,419
she said he's around the Bible he was

796
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:12,000
four or five hairy people with eyes like

797
00:34:18,860 --> 00:34:14,730
holes a fire started shooting in and

798
00:34:21,470 --> 00:34:18,870
randomly ran into the cabin went back

799
00:34:23,690 --> 00:34:21,480
out again a short time later and they

800
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:23,700
see this large object like big Christmas

801
00:34:26,990 --> 00:34:25,169
ornaments with different lights on it

802
00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:27,000
hovering over the woods at the same time

803
00:34:33,409 --> 00:34:30,320
that's when they called the State Police

804
00:34:35,090 --> 00:34:33,419
they police got up there I believe was

805
00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:35,100
one trooper one National Guardsman

806
00:34:40,340 --> 00:34:37,710
initially then Moore came to the scene

807
00:34:42,350 --> 00:34:40,350
and I talked to the primary investigator

808
00:34:44,210 --> 00:34:42,360
at the time and he said he said by the

809
00:34:47,540 --> 00:34:44,220
time we found the place got up there

810
00:34:49,940 --> 00:34:47,550
everything was done but he said these

811
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:49,950
were very credible people for one

812
00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:52,530
witness was extremely emotionally shook

813
00:34:57,740 --> 00:34:55,679
up and he said something very strange

814
00:35:00,050 --> 00:34:57,750
happened up there that was based on the

815
00:35:01,670 --> 00:35:00,060
animal reactions now I've said to you

816
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:01,680
earlier I've never seen your for a

817
00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:03,810
Bigfoot myself but I've been out on the

818
00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:05,310
scene of these incidents many times

819
00:35:10,370 --> 00:35:07,260
within minutes hours after they occurred

820
00:35:12,770 --> 00:35:10,380
and I did to see the animal reactions

821
00:35:16,610 --> 00:35:12,780
you can fool people you can fool the

822
00:35:19,730 --> 00:35:16,620
animals very very common especially even

823
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:19,740
the most ferocious type of dog as he

824
00:35:23,630 --> 00:35:21,690
told me so these people had think it was

825
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:23,640
three or four large dogs of Berenice and

826
00:35:25,820 --> 00:35:25,290
when it got up to the scene there wasn't

827
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:25,830
a sound

828
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:27,930
these dogs wouldn't move they wouldn't

829
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:30,000
work he said they were shaking and

830
00:35:33,950 --> 00:35:32,010
cowering and crying and they would not

831
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:33,960
make it they would not work whatsoever I

832
00:35:39,740 --> 00:35:36,810
think one of them was a Eskimo Spitz and

833
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:39,750
it was in a cage and no one officer I

834
00:35:44,090 --> 00:35:41,490
believe opened up and tried to pull the

835
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:44,100
dog up dog should have bit his fingers

836
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:47,130
off dog wouldn't even move well the next

837
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:48,690
morning when I get up there everything's

838
00:35:53,810 --> 00:35:51,810
back to normal I by the way when my team

839
00:35:56,290 --> 00:35:53,820
got up there and we searched in the

840
00:35:58,820 --> 00:35:56,300
woods and NORs a.m. there was an animal

841
00:36:00,140 --> 00:35:58,830
humane officer something came up to join

842
00:36:02,420 --> 00:36:00,150
us at the scene we're searching for

843
00:36:02,970 --> 00:36:02,430
evidence we found out in the woods right

844
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:02,980
in

845
00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:07,359
the tree where she had shot at the

846
00:36:14,609 --> 00:36:11,260
creature and that was the case among

847
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:14,619
others that convinced Asador something

848
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:19,450
going on and it's an amazing story and

849
00:36:25,470 --> 00:36:21,490
there's other details to it but there

850
00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:25,480
were other cases similar and some of

851
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:27,910
this stuff is so it's so hard to believe

852
00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:30,880
but when you talk to so many people who

853
00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:33,280
don't know each other give me a similar

854
00:36:36,210 --> 00:36:34,569
account and they don't want to tell you

855
00:36:38,670 --> 00:36:36,220
about these accounts I mean they're

856
00:36:40,740 --> 00:36:38,680
reluctant enough even discuss seeing a

857
00:36:42,690 --> 00:36:40,750
UFO or Bigfoot but when you have these

858
00:36:45,329 --> 00:36:42,700
high strangeness aspects of the case

859
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:45,339
they're much more reluctant discussion

860
00:36:50,490 --> 00:36:48,010
but some of them do yeah and I mean I

861
00:36:52,890 --> 00:36:50,500
sat down rum two three years last two

862
00:36:54,539 --> 00:36:52,900
three years with some very experienced

863
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:54,549
hunters different place different

864
00:36:58,380 --> 00:36:56,770
hunters from different places and I'm

865
00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:58,390
telling you some of these guys were

866
00:37:02,370 --> 00:37:00,640
almost crying in tears talking about

867
00:37:04,170 --> 00:37:02,380
things too they encountered recent years

868
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:04,180
said they spent two whole lives in the

869
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:05,770
woods they weren't gonna go back out

870
00:37:09,089 --> 00:37:06,089
again

871
00:37:10,799 --> 00:37:09,099
nothing impacted their lives and that's

872
00:37:14,339 --> 00:37:10,809
what's happening with so many people

873
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:14,349
when they deal with these phenomena well

874
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:16,170
and you know for a fact that

875
00:37:21,150 --> 00:37:18,130
Pennsylvania over all the people are

876
00:37:22,940 --> 00:37:21,160
fairly conservative and they're not just

877
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:22,950
not going to come out and tell you

878
00:37:28,289 --> 00:37:25,839
something the experience it's got to be

879
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:28,299
pretty profound for them to come out and

880
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:32,049
say something so I think it's remarkable

881
00:37:38,670 --> 00:37:35,680
that as many cases are reported in

882
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:38,680
Pennsylvania you know though you know

883
00:37:45,839 --> 00:37:40,569
you know that there's a lot that's not

884
00:37:48,569 --> 00:37:45,849
being said I mean up to this point of

885
00:37:51,329 --> 00:37:48,579
course this year as we both know I had

886
00:37:54,089 --> 00:37:51,339
many many speaking engagements that have

887
00:37:56,670 --> 00:37:54,099
been canceled due to the virus situation

888
00:37:58,620 --> 00:37:56,680
I'm sure you have as well but prior to

889
00:38:01,230 --> 00:37:58,630
that I mean everywhere I went to

890
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:01,240
literally people would come up to me and

891
00:38:04,589 --> 00:38:02,710
share their accounts of sightings having

892
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:04,599
recently or in the past some of these

893
00:38:08,250 --> 00:38:06,130
people didn't want to talk to me then

894
00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:08,260
that contacted me later because they

895
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:10,720
wanted to keep it confidential mm-hmm so

896
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:14,170
everywhere I went I would say 99% those

897
00:38:18,690 --> 00:38:16,570
reports people never reported to anybody

898
00:38:22,020 --> 00:38:18,700
many other investigators and researchers

899
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:22,030
I know it's the same thing I get reports

900
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:23,710
all the time about - has been open since

901
00:38:28,590 --> 00:38:27,040
1969 it still never stops ringing there

902
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:28,600
are many other investigators out there

903
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:32,320
getting reports we have no idea how much

904
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:33,850
of this is going on let me tell you

905
00:38:38,430 --> 00:38:36,130
there's no doubt in my mind it is much

906
00:38:40,050 --> 00:38:38,440
more common than people realize and it's

907
00:38:42,810 --> 00:38:40,060
not something the ways the news

908
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:42,820
suggested on occasion maybe once a year

909
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:45,610
you get a UFO report these things go on

910
00:38:50,010 --> 00:38:48,250
all year round every year even now in

911
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:50,020
the last few months with the virus

912
00:38:54,510 --> 00:38:52,570
situation I'm still getting reports not

913
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:54,520
the numbers like we did in the last few

914
00:38:59,370 --> 00:38:57,370
years but we're still getting quite a

915
00:39:04,220 --> 00:38:59,380
lot of reports that about UFOs and

916
00:39:08,370 --> 00:39:04,230
cryptid encounters so continue to go on

917
00:39:10,770 --> 00:39:08,380
yeah I'm always amazed that some of the

918
00:39:13,590 --> 00:39:10,780
reports and how you know it seems that

919
00:39:17,250 --> 00:39:13,600
there's some new phenomena that seems to

920
00:39:18,990 --> 00:39:17,260
pop up and you know you start talking

921
00:39:20,820 --> 00:39:19,000
about it and mentioning it and people

922
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:20,830
will tell you wow somebody's hearing

923
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:23,200
something as somebody else said and

924
00:39:27,450 --> 00:39:25,090
they're just basically caught well I

925
00:39:31,230 --> 00:39:27,460
don't buy into that I mean there are

926
00:39:33,210 --> 00:39:31,240
people that have no idea what has been

927
00:39:35,130 --> 00:39:33,220
going on just like what happened in

928
00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:35,140
Chicago you know with the winged

929
00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:37,240
humanoids I mean it had no idea of what

930
00:39:43,710 --> 00:39:40,510
has been going on we'll come and contact

931
00:39:49,170 --> 00:39:43,720
you wanting to know what the hell did I

932
00:39:51,090 --> 00:39:49,180
just see sure yeah yeah and the same

933
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:51,100
year in Pennsylvania man one of the

934
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:53,650
cryptids to become well known as the the

935
00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:55,510
Butler gargoyle from back and believed

936
00:40:00,480 --> 00:39:58,720
2011 mm-hmm and that's when the dispel

937
00:40:02,670 --> 00:40:00,490
oh who I've had many many interviews

938
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:02,680
I've got to know his family very well

939
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:04,330
personally over the years very

940
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:06,910
professional I mean he's riding down the

941
00:40:14,070 --> 00:40:10,210
road that night in Butler County I think

942
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:14,080
was between East Brady and Turk or as I

943
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:16,330
remember Anna was late at night and he

944
00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:18,730
is riding down this back road and he

945
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:20,710
notices something on the right side and

946
00:40:24,090 --> 00:40:22,240
the field in front of me thought it was

947
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:24,100
a deer he slows down puts as high beams

948
00:40:29,790 --> 00:40:27,040
on and this thing rises from the ground

949
00:40:30,089 --> 00:40:29,800
takes three big steps walks in front as

950
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:30,099
big

951
00:40:33,450 --> 00:40:32,079
Construction sign a road sign and watch

952
00:40:36,329 --> 00:40:33,460
in front of his car off into the woods

953
00:40:38,249 --> 00:40:36,339
and it's gone and he said to me he said

954
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:38,259
when I first interview him he said I

955
00:40:41,789 --> 00:40:39,729
hear people talking about Bigfoot he

956
00:40:44,099 --> 00:40:41,799
said this thing wasn't a Bigfoot he said

957
00:40:46,109 --> 00:40:44,109
this thing was easily 8 foot tall never

958
00:40:51,049 --> 00:40:46,119
looked at him he only saw it from the

959
00:40:53,279 --> 00:40:51,059
side he said he had light leathery skin

960
00:40:55,289 --> 00:40:53,289
they had was safe thing like an

961
00:40:59,759 --> 00:40:55,299
aerodynamic helmet the eyes were swept

962
00:41:02,009 --> 00:40:59,769
back it had claws four fingers the legs

963
00:41:03,870 --> 00:41:02,019
were very short and muscular they moved

964
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:03,880
unlike a human they moved almost

965
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:06,880
backward and had wings tucked into its

966
00:41:15,779 --> 00:41:12,960
beside and within days apparently Dan

967
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:15,789
Hagman up there from the butler research

968
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:19,450
group and several other similar reports

969
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:22,089
and my understanding is from Dan that I

970
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:24,160
believe was in the last year that he had

971
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:26,650
at least another similar report happened

972
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:31,089
distant last year and there's so many

973
00:41:35,370 --> 00:41:32,650
strange things going on out there it's

974
00:41:37,769 --> 00:41:35,380
just amazing and it's an ongoing

975
00:41:39,479 --> 00:41:37,779
phenomena and you know something else

976
00:41:41,339 --> 00:41:39,489
that keeps coming out I keep getting

977
00:41:43,459 --> 00:41:41,349
these black panther reports and I've

978
00:41:46,499 --> 00:41:43,469
been getting for years and years and

979
00:41:48,809 --> 00:41:46,509
these reports again very detailed

980
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:48,819
sightings and of course we all know

981
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:50,890
Black Panthers exist because we're

982
00:41:54,839 --> 00:41:52,690
talking about a black leopard or black

983
00:41:56,190 --> 00:41:54,849
Jaguar not calm in this part of the

984
00:42:00,599 --> 00:41:56,200
world but they've been seeing them for

985
00:42:02,249 --> 00:42:00,609
years and years and it's a stranger

986
00:42:03,450 --> 00:42:02,259
aspect to it here's something else a lot

987
00:42:05,309 --> 00:42:03,460
of people don't know about the Bigfoot

988
00:42:07,319 --> 00:42:05,319
phenomena and I'm sure you've heard this

989
00:42:09,180 --> 00:42:07,329
too it's not only Pennsylvania been

990
00:42:11,219 --> 00:42:09,190
reported historically from around the

991
00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:11,229
country but again not well known not

992
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:13,599
really talked very really talked about

993
00:42:19,999 --> 00:42:16,690
in some cases you have more than one

994
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:20,009
cryptid seen together at the same time

995
00:42:24,959 --> 00:42:22,960
now you've got a Bigfoot sometimes with

996
00:42:28,190 --> 00:42:24,969
a black panther or another cryptid seen

997
00:42:30,569 --> 00:42:28,200
together and the other phenomena is this

998
00:42:33,989 --> 00:42:30,579
sometimes when you have a localized

999
00:42:36,690 --> 00:42:33,999
outbreak of Bigfoot activity you also

1000
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:36,700
get an outbreak in the same area of

1001
00:42:42,059 --> 00:42:38,890
another cryptid very commonly a black

1002
00:42:43,830 --> 00:42:42,069
panther reports and this for example was

1003
00:42:48,450 --> 00:42:43,840
very common during the

1004
00:42:49,410 --> 00:42:48,460
outbreak here in 1979 through about 1982

1005
00:42:52,170 --> 00:42:49,420
as I recall

1006
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:52,180
down around the Apollo PA area so in the

1007
00:42:59,130 --> 00:42:55,770
border of Armstrong a Westlaw County and

1008
00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:59,140
from my memory it began in the summer of

1009
00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:00,640
79

1010
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:03,160
when an object fell from the sky into a

1011
00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:04,480
large wooded area

1012
00:43:10,110 --> 00:43:06,760
soon after the residents are under began

1013
00:43:11,820 --> 00:43:10,120
to report screams and cries and UFOs and

1014
00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:11,830
strange lights and strange footprints

1015
00:43:16,620 --> 00:43:14,710
and Bigfoot sightings and it went on for

1016
00:43:18,450 --> 00:43:16,630
months and months and months and there

1017
00:43:21,710 --> 00:43:18,460
were multiple witness involved in amid

1018
00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:21,720
the local and TV news and everything and

1019
00:43:26,070 --> 00:43:24,310
that's just one thing it keeps going on

1020
00:43:28,020 --> 00:43:26,080
and you know we talk about the

1021
00:43:29,490 --> 00:43:28,030
skinwalker ranch and all everybody knows

1022
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:29,500
about skinwalker is very very

1023
00:43:36,650 --> 00:43:33,250
interesting but similar type of events

1024
00:43:39,390 --> 00:43:36,660
were going on into here in 73 and 74 and

1025
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:39,400
there are other locations around the

1026
00:43:45,150 --> 00:43:42,130
country and around the world where

1027
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:45,160
similar phenomena occurs a lot of the

1028
00:43:48,510 --> 00:43:46,930
Bigfoot sightings and crypt encounters

1029
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:48,520
UFO sightings there just sporadic

1030
00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:50,890
reports they can occur anywhere but

1031
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:54,100
sometimes this phenomena seems to focus

1032
00:43:59,490 --> 00:43:57,520
on a particular geographical location

1033
00:44:01,950 --> 00:43:59,500
mm-hmm and I can tell you there's

1034
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:01,960
another location and Fayette counties

1035
00:44:07,230 --> 00:44:03,970
that's been active for several years now

1036
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:07,240
and I've been up there and some of the

1037
00:44:11,490 --> 00:44:08,890
other investigators I know are still

1038
00:44:13,260 --> 00:44:11,500
going up there currently and there's

1039
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:13,270
ongoing reports even in recent weeks up

1040
00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:15,520
there but this all began several years

1041
00:44:21,870 --> 00:44:18,670
ago and they begin the same thing they

1042
00:44:25,650 --> 00:44:21,880
begin to see strange light paranormal

1043
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:25,660
phenomenon animal reactions UFOs screams

1044
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:28,810
Bigfoot footprints and people visiting

1045
00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:30,970
the forum others have experienced it as

1046
00:44:38,310 --> 00:44:35,020
well so this phenomena is extremely

1047
00:44:40,740 --> 00:44:38,320
unusual it's far beyond our present

1048
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:40,750
understanding I really don't think the

1049
00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:42,010
government knows what's going on either

1050
00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:43,390
I believe they know a lot more than

1051
00:44:47,550 --> 00:44:45,070
telling us but I think they're trying to

1052
00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:47,560
figure out themselves and you know I've

1053
00:44:52,770 --> 00:44:49,920
seen indication over many many years

1054
00:44:53,790 --> 00:44:52,780
with the investigation I've done that

1055
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:53,800
the government appears to have the

1056
00:44:58,650 --> 00:44:55,810
interest on both UFOs and the big

1057
00:45:00,840 --> 00:44:58,660
phenomena oh I have no doubt of that I

1058
00:45:02,940 --> 00:45:00,850
really do I mean just like things I

1059
00:45:05,010 --> 00:45:02,950
verbs you know over the years you know

1060
00:45:07,850 --> 00:45:05,020
you were talking about the Black Panther

1061
00:45:10,770 --> 00:45:07,860
sightings and of course I've heard some

1062
00:45:13,170 --> 00:45:10,780
along the chest and ridge and in fact I

1063
00:45:13,950 --> 00:45:13,180
heard one firsthand but guy had just

1064
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:13,960
seen one

1065
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:16,960
why just east of Perryopolis right there

1066
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:21,130
along yatta Haney and he had just seen

1067
00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:22,690
it before that and I was with several

1068
00:45:26,670 --> 00:45:24,880
the gentlemen because I was at a retreat

1069
00:45:29,820 --> 00:45:26,680
of a Linden Hall with the United

1070
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:29,830
Steelworkers and this guy comes walking

1071
00:45:35,010 --> 00:45:32,560
into the bar there while we're sitting

1072
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:35,020
there and he he is wise ghost and he's

1073
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:38,650
telling us it was right along the the

1074
00:45:42,510 --> 00:45:40,450
golf course right there Linden Hall and

1075
00:45:44,580 --> 00:45:42,520
he said he swears he saw a black panther

1076
00:45:47,310 --> 00:45:44,590
and he described in the size and

1077
00:45:49,350 --> 00:45:47,320
everything and you know you know I was

1078
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:49,360
the only one that there that was pretty

1079
00:45:53,730 --> 00:45:51,280
aware some of the slags i've been in the

1080
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:53,740
area along Chestnut Ridge and you know

1081
00:45:57,690 --> 00:45:55,570
mostly other people just you know

1082
00:46:00,020 --> 00:45:57,700
thought the guy was nuts but man I'm

1083
00:46:02,910 --> 00:46:00,030
telling you I this guy saw something oh

1084
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:02,920
yeah and I mean that there's so many I'm

1085
00:46:07,770 --> 00:46:04,930
I think I mentioned I'm working on my

1086
00:46:10,020 --> 00:46:07,780
fourth book y whole time it has some

1087
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:10,030
amazing strange case including a lot of

1088
00:46:15,260 --> 00:46:12,640
black panther reports there is more and

1089
00:46:18,450 --> 00:46:15,270
more information coming in once again

1090
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:18,460
and and reluctant again as I'm repeating

1091
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:21,520
myself that I am saying this but there's

1092
00:46:25,170 --> 00:46:23,410
more data suggesting a lot of the

1093
00:46:26,910 --> 00:46:25,180
cryptids have a physical and

1094
00:46:29,310 --> 00:46:26,920
non-physical component to them that's

1095
00:46:31,260 --> 00:46:29,320
why there's no bodies and you remember

1096
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:31,270
the one case on I talked about for

1097
00:46:37,410 --> 00:46:33,610
Fayette County it happened years ago

1098
00:46:39,570 --> 00:46:37,420
back in the 80s and I'm trying to

1099
00:46:43,380 --> 00:46:39,580
remember from memory but anyhow as it

1100
00:46:47,970 --> 00:46:43,390
was early morning this fella just got

1101
00:46:51,770 --> 00:46:47,980
back in his car was overheating he went

1102
00:46:55,530 --> 00:46:51,780
in the garage to get some antifreeze and

1103
00:46:58,740 --> 00:46:55,540
when he came out as I recall he heard

1104
00:47:01,940 --> 00:46:58,750
this loud growling and he happened to

1105
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:01,950
look at her so there's a large black cat

1106
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:04,890
and didn't pay much attention to it and

1107
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:07,090
I went back to putting some more

1108
00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:09,280
antifreeze in a car

1109
00:47:14,430 --> 00:47:11,680
a short time later he hears a much much

1110
00:47:16,770 --> 00:47:14,440
louder growl and he turns around the

1111
00:47:19,790 --> 00:47:16,780
look and now this big house cat has

1112
00:47:22,740 --> 00:47:19,800
physically groaned about twice at sighs

1113
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:22,750
okay yeah so anyhow he runs into grabs

1114
00:47:26,610 --> 00:47:24,970
his pistol grab a pistol he comes back

1115
00:47:29,970 --> 00:47:26,620
out and this thing is making us wake up

1116
00:47:32,130 --> 00:47:29,980
the road and he said now it looks like a

1117
00:47:34,140 --> 00:47:32,140
full-size black panther like you would

1118
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:34,150
see in the zoo with glowing yellow eyes

1119
00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:36,310
I know he said I remember he said he

1120
00:47:41,130 --> 00:47:38,800
took a shot at it he said a growl turned

1121
00:47:42,690 --> 00:47:41,140
around walked up the road and physically

1122
00:47:43,140 --> 00:47:42,700
vanished and disappeared right in front

1123
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:43,150
of him

1124
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:48,370
Wow Wow you know I just recently saw a

1125
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:51,810
film that was produced by Linda Godfrey

1126
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:54,400
about these Black Panthers that being

1127
00:48:01,410 --> 00:47:58,330
seen in southwest Wisconsin around

1128
00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:01,420
Hillsborough of Wisconsin in that in a

1129
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:03,310
general area and you know this thing's

1130
00:48:09,650 --> 00:48:05,410
but this has been going on for years now

1131
00:48:12,990 --> 00:48:09,660
and in fact many of the DNR people and

1132
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:13,000
even a big cat expert live in the area

1133
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:15,610
and have also seen these things so I

1134
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:17,050
mean they they're saying they're

1135
00:48:24,030 --> 00:48:21,130
definitely some type of large black cat

1136
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:24,040
so you know and then they were talking

1137
00:48:31,350 --> 00:48:28,090
to a gentleman who who had one of those

1138
00:48:34,170 --> 00:48:31,360
private zoos where he kept big cats and

1139
00:48:37,020 --> 00:48:34,180
you know he made you really believe that

1140
00:48:39,690 --> 00:48:37,030
if one of those things escaped what's

1141
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:39,700
happening has happened many times that

1142
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:42,010
they can survive I mean it's not like

1143
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:44,800
you know they are from Central America

1144
00:48:49,770 --> 00:48:49,570
southern Mexico but these things can get

1145
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:49,780
in

1146
00:49:03,630 --> 00:48:58,690
to do with what people are actually

1147
00:49:05,310 --> 00:49:03,640
seeing well I can tell you sir I just

1148
00:49:07,650 --> 00:49:05,320
told you about the one particular case

1149
00:49:08,850 --> 00:49:07,660
there's other incidents which suggest

1150
00:49:11,340 --> 00:49:08,860
again that there's something much

1151
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:11,350
stranger and the relationship to the

1152
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:13,810
fact that these things quite often show

1153
00:49:18,270 --> 00:49:15,910
up when there's Bigfoot activity going

1154
00:49:20,430 --> 00:49:18,280
on other areas I think that's very very

1155
00:49:22,140 --> 00:49:20,440
interesting but you know with the black

1156
00:49:23,069 --> 00:49:22,150
panther reports over the years here in

1157
00:49:24,809 --> 00:49:23,079
Pennsylvania turbine

1158
00:49:27,630 --> 00:49:24,819
any many of them in many of those cases

1159
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:27,640
we've followed up and check places to

1160
00:49:32,339 --> 00:49:29,890
see if anything had escaped anywhere and

1161
00:49:34,650 --> 00:49:32,349
there's not that many of these type of

1162
00:49:37,170 --> 00:49:34,660
animals in Pennsylvania and there's it's

1163
00:49:38,940 --> 00:49:37,180
not easy for them to get out but we

1164
00:49:41,069 --> 00:49:38,950
never found any cases where any of those

1165
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:41,079
have been missing and I can take a white

1166
00:49:46,469 --> 00:49:44,410
interesting cases back up to 1983 and

1167
00:49:50,910 --> 00:49:46,479
this made the news by the way

1168
00:49:52,949 --> 00:49:50,920
and this was an incident happened in a

1169
00:49:56,099 --> 00:49:52,959
suburb of Pittsburgh it was called

1170
00:49:57,900 --> 00:49:56,109
Bloomfield and there was a large wooded

1171
00:50:01,019 --> 00:49:57,910
area there but there was also a large

1172
00:50:03,059 --> 00:50:01,029
car dealership and it was right on the

1173
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:03,069
opposite side of the woods and early

1174
00:50:06,749 --> 00:50:04,569
dad's morning about 9:30 I might the

1175
00:50:09,299 --> 00:50:06,759
mechanic was replacing a headliner on a

1176
00:50:12,359 --> 00:50:09,309
car when he has this loud thump and

1177
00:50:14,190 --> 00:50:12,369
here's this huge black panther leaping

1178
00:50:16,289 --> 00:50:14,200
over the fender and hood of the car and

1179
00:50:18,690 --> 00:50:16,299
the thing is carrying a dead animal in

1180
00:50:21,690 --> 00:50:18,700
its mouth and it lands like a few feet

1181
00:50:23,219 --> 00:50:21,700
away from him and I mean he's looking

1182
00:50:26,130 --> 00:50:23,229
right through this thing Spacey those

1183
00:50:29,069 --> 00:50:26,140
beautiful solid black shiny boy he had a

1184
00:50:31,140 --> 00:50:29,079
large head the ears were upright and I

1185
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:31,150
mean he could smell it was so close you

1186
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:33,729
could smell like a putrid urine smell

1187
00:50:39,479 --> 00:50:36,249
coming from the animal very deep heavy

1188
00:50:41,699 --> 00:50:39,489
breathing sound and he said the sound

1189
00:50:43,410 --> 00:50:41,709
was making it was not a growl and not a

1190
00:50:46,650 --> 00:50:43,420
Meowth but like a deep heavy breathing

1191
00:50:48,930 --> 00:50:46,660
and he said moments later it turns and

1192
00:50:52,349 --> 00:50:48,940
jumped back over the fence into the

1193
00:50:55,039 --> 00:50:52,359
woods a short time later several people

1194
00:50:57,630 --> 00:50:55,049
saw a big one and a small one together

1195
00:50:59,519 --> 00:50:57,640
dad led to a major search by the

1196
00:51:02,670 --> 00:50:59,529
Pittsburgh police and the animal

1197
00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:02,680
protectors of tranquilizer guns and

1198
00:51:07,019 --> 00:51:04,660
actually one of my guys in my group was

1199
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:07,029
a special I believe with special forces

1200
00:51:11,999 --> 00:51:09,910
guy years and years ago and he was a

1201
00:51:14,729 --> 00:51:12,009
real good tracker and he was out there

1202
00:51:16,949 --> 00:51:14,739
as well anyhow they made a thorough

1203
00:51:19,319 --> 00:51:16,959
search of that area other people saw it

1204
00:51:21,779 --> 00:51:19,329
never found the trail I mean they found

1205
00:51:24,209 --> 00:51:21,789
some tracks never found it nothing was

1206
00:51:26,249 --> 00:51:24,219
missing and I mean those are the kind of

1207
00:51:29,309 --> 00:51:26,259
things that go on whenever people see

1208
00:51:31,170 --> 00:51:29,319
them we never find any trace I mean we

1209
00:51:34,469 --> 00:51:31,180
never find the animal once again and

1210
00:51:36,410 --> 00:51:34,479
there's nothing missing so it makes you

1211
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:36,420
wonder I'm sure as an expert

1212
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:38,610
for some of these sightings but some of

1213
00:51:43,850 --> 00:51:40,530
them again have some very strange

1214
00:51:45,710 --> 00:51:43,860
elements to the reports well there's

1215
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:45,720
definitely something going on and I mean

1216
00:51:51,050 --> 00:51:48,690
and that's why I believe as you do for

1217
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:51,060
the most part there's some supernatural

1218
00:51:56,780 --> 00:51:54,480
aspect to some of this phenomena and you

1219
00:52:00,050 --> 00:51:56,790
know we haven't figured out yet maybe

1220
00:52:02,210 --> 00:52:00,060
one day we will yeah you know just like

1221
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:02,220
you're talking about winged humanoids

1222
00:52:07,010 --> 00:52:04,890
and this gargoyle from from Butler

1223
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:07,020
County well down here in southeast south

1224
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:09,450
central Pennsylvania and Adams in York

1225
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:11,730
Canada we have had a lot of winged

1226
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:14,640
humanoid sightings between myself and

1227
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:18,930
Tim Renner I I think if I just off top

1228
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:22,050
my head we've got nine cases over the

1229
00:52:28,430 --> 00:52:25,530
years that have been reported to us so

1230
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:28,440
there's something being seen not just in

1231
00:52:33,110 --> 00:52:31,290
Chicago and other places but also in in

1232
00:52:37,090 --> 00:52:33,120
south-central Pennsylvania where I live

1233
00:52:39,140 --> 00:52:37,100
at yeah yeah it goes on everywhere

1234
00:52:41,660 --> 00:52:39,150
there's no doubt about it I mean these

1235
00:52:45,650 --> 00:52:41,670
cases occur all over the country and

1236
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:45,660
around the world and I'm seeing a very

1237
00:52:50,930 --> 00:52:48,570
big increase in interest in these cases

1238
00:52:54,020 --> 00:52:50,940
now yeah I've been doing a lot of radio

1239
00:52:56,990 --> 00:52:54,030
shows I'm getting a lot of input and I

1240
00:52:58,460 --> 00:52:57,000
can see that now people are beginning to

1241
00:53:00,530 --> 00:52:58,470
be a little more open-minded

1242
00:53:02,150 --> 00:53:00,540
they're starting to realize that there

1243
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:02,160
are things out there which we just don't

1244
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:03,570
understand right

1245
00:53:09,020 --> 00:53:06,480
and I believe someday you know we'll

1246
00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:09,030
have a lot better technology we'll have

1247
00:53:12,740 --> 00:53:11,310
a lot more data to work with and

1248
00:53:14,780 --> 00:53:12,750
probably is not going to be in our

1249
00:53:16,430 --> 00:53:14,790
lifetime but I think someday we're going

1250
00:53:19,730 --> 00:53:16,440
to know a lot more about this phenomena

1251
00:53:22,310 --> 00:53:19,740
and and once again you know what I'm

1252
00:53:24,500 --> 00:53:22,320
seeing is it's an energy connected

1253
00:53:26,270 --> 00:53:24,510
phenomena there's a physical and a

1254
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:26,280
non-physical aspect to it so these

1255
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:28,800
things whatever they are they under

1256
00:53:32,570 --> 00:53:30,330
certain conditions they come into our

1257
00:53:34,670 --> 00:53:32,580
physical reality sometimes it looks

1258
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:34,680
physically solid sometimes they're not

1259
00:53:38,780 --> 00:53:36,810
completely physically solid as in many

1260
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:38,790
cases we've had in recent years they can

1261
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:40,410
leave evidence at times and then they're

1262
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:43,290
gone they come and they go and it alone

1263
00:53:48,170 --> 00:53:45,090
you'll remember we talked about this and

1264
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:48,180
other shows we've done but something I

1265
00:53:52,789 --> 00:53:50,160
noticed number of years ago

1266
00:53:54,529 --> 00:53:52,799
with big threat and other cryptids and

1267
00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:54,539
some even some of the dog man type

1268
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:57,359
reports and some instances people will

1269
00:54:02,059 --> 00:53:59,760
tell me that they're very close to the

1270
00:54:05,180 --> 00:54:02,069
creatures and are watching these things

1271
00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:05,190
and when the creature notices them the

1272
00:54:10,130 --> 00:54:07,950
creature seems very startled as if they

1273
00:54:11,660 --> 00:54:10,140
realize that they can be seen and I

1274
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:11,670
remember the last couple weeks I

1275
00:54:15,740 --> 00:54:13,680
remember reading one your daily reports

1276
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:15,750
and one your cryptic encounters the

1277
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:17,520
witness said exactly the same thing I

1278
00:54:22,430 --> 00:54:20,730
know I remember what it was and that

1279
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:22,440
that is happening more and more I know

1280
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:24,000
you mentioned that to me or two or three

1281
00:54:29,930 --> 00:54:26,400
years ago that you are noticing these

1282
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:29,940
reports were in particular Bigfoot that

1283
00:54:35,870 --> 00:54:32,880
they you know when the Bigfoot looked at

1284
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:35,880
the witness and and realized that it was

1285
00:54:41,329 --> 00:54:39,119
being seen it acted shocked and took off

1286
00:54:43,490 --> 00:54:41,339
and it's you know that's something

1287
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:43,500
that's becoming more prevalent with the

1288
00:54:49,130 --> 00:54:46,530
reports are beginning yeah and again

1289
00:54:52,370 --> 00:54:49,140
it's with various type of cryptids not

1290
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:52,380
just one type yeah I think that that may

1291
00:54:58,690 --> 00:54:54,720
be an important clue to what we're

1292
00:55:01,490 --> 00:54:58,700
dealing with and it you know every day

1293
00:55:03,319 --> 00:55:01,500
when as I hear these reports I can't say

1294
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:03,329
every day but very calmly I get reports

1295
00:55:08,269 --> 00:55:06,690
to coming in and so many people tell me

1296
00:55:10,849 --> 00:55:08,279
again those little details that are so

1297
00:55:13,010 --> 00:55:10,859
startling because why would you bring

1298
00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:13,020
that up and how did you know because

1299
00:55:17,450 --> 00:55:15,119
very few people would even know that so

1300
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:17,460
that's what's so amazing you get so many

1301
00:55:21,410 --> 00:55:20,010
similar little details to so many people

1302
00:55:24,019 --> 00:55:21,420
and that's why you have to pay attention

1303
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:24,029
to those reports because if only one or

1304
00:55:27,260 --> 00:55:25,200
two people were telling you these things

1305
00:55:29,630 --> 00:55:27,270
but when you have so many credible

1306
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:29,640
people who I mean why would a police

1307
00:55:33,799 --> 00:55:31,680
officer on patrol reported seeing

1308
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:33,809
something so strange unusual as we

1309
00:55:38,299 --> 00:55:35,760
talked about earlier you know what are

1310
00:55:41,569 --> 00:55:38,309
hunters and businessmen and people from

1311
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:41,579
all backgrounds avila and their lives of

1312
00:55:46,430 --> 00:55:43,890
so many different people who have been

1313
00:55:47,809 --> 00:55:46,440
affected by these encounters why would

1314
00:55:51,019 --> 00:55:47,819
you make up these stories when you have

1315
00:55:52,910 --> 00:55:51,029
nothing to gain exactly you know we've

1316
00:55:57,349 --> 00:55:52,920
been getting more more reports from

1317
00:55:59,769 --> 00:55:57,359
police officers officials even people it

1318
00:56:03,650 --> 00:55:59,779
even here in Pennsylvania we've gotten

1319
00:56:06,049 --> 00:56:03,660
reports from from game

1320
00:56:07,099 --> 00:56:06,059
Commission officers and you know of

1321
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:07,109
course they're not gonna make it

1322
00:56:09,770 --> 00:56:08,400
well-known you know because their

1323
00:56:10,430 --> 00:56:09,780
superiors aren't gonna want to talk

1324
00:56:13,069 --> 00:56:10,440
about it

1325
00:56:17,870 --> 00:56:13,079
but we're hearing it from them directly

1326
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:17,880
from them so you know and another thing

1327
00:56:23,900 --> 00:56:21,450
you know more and more and I quite sure

1328
00:56:26,770 --> 00:56:23,910
you're getting into I'm not being asked

1329
00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:26,780
to be on more networks on radio shows

1330
00:56:33,620 --> 00:56:29,520
because it's being taken more seriously

1331
00:56:36,020 --> 00:56:33,630
now than it ever has been oh definitely

1332
00:56:37,730 --> 00:56:36,030
yeah I mean I'm I've got many many shows

1333
00:56:40,130 --> 00:56:37,740
already scheduled next few weeks and

1334
00:56:43,130 --> 00:56:40,140
yeah the interest is getting bigger and

1335
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:43,140
bigger the reaction is getting more

1336
00:56:47,150 --> 00:56:45,210
positive you're seeing a lot of the

1337
00:56:49,069 --> 00:56:47,160
national news media of course talking

1338
00:56:50,599 --> 00:56:49,079
about the UFO subject now but a lot of

1339
00:56:53,690 --> 00:56:50,609
them are talking about Bigfoot as well

1340
00:56:55,339 --> 00:56:53,700
and people want to know people are

1341
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:55,349
curious especially now when they're home

1342
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:57,410
they want to have something else to

1343
00:57:01,460 --> 00:56:59,760
bring take their attention off of what

1344
00:57:02,750 --> 00:57:01,470
we're all dealing with and very

1345
00:57:05,859 --> 00:57:02,760
interesting they have more knowledge

1346
00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:05,869
about these strange phenomena yeah

1347
00:57:13,660 --> 00:57:09,359
well Stan why I know the kerbin 19

1348
00:57:16,460 --> 00:57:13,670
lockdown has caused issues as far as

1349
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:16,470
conferences and showing up at events and

1350
00:57:20,450 --> 00:57:18,450
stuff because you know we were talking

1351
00:57:23,150 --> 00:57:20,460
about before the show everything's being

1352
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:23,160
canceled so but what do you think you

1353
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:25,890
could be doing with during the year that

1354
00:57:30,579 --> 00:57:27,450
may actually get done I know you're

1355
00:57:32,690 --> 00:57:30,589
writing a book I'm doing that again

1356
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:32,700
surprisingly we'd have time to even go

1357
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:34,890
over it but there have been quite a lot

1358
00:57:41,140 --> 00:57:38,160
of reports through 2024 the last several

1359
00:57:44,089 --> 00:57:41,150
weeks a lot of UFO reports has been

1360
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:44,099
strange sounds footprint some cryptid

1361
00:57:48,380 --> 00:57:46,170
encounters so some people were getting

1362
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:48,390
out the woods and they're reporting same

1363
00:57:52,370 --> 00:57:50,400
things and of course some of the UFO

1364
00:57:53,900 --> 00:57:52,380
cases we've been able to already figure

1365
00:57:56,900 --> 00:57:53,910
out there's been a lot of small links

1366
00:57:58,460 --> 00:57:56,910
satellites going over and planet Venus

1367
00:58:00,799 --> 00:57:58,470
of course is attracted people's

1368
00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:00,809
attention but some reports are much more

1369
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:02,880
interesting so the reports are still

1370
00:58:06,829 --> 00:58:05,010
coming in I still get many calls and

1371
00:58:08,990 --> 00:58:06,839
emails coming in so I'm busy with that

1372
00:58:10,539 --> 00:58:09,000
I'm doing a lot of radio shows I guess

1373
00:58:13,010 --> 00:58:10,549
I'm working on my fourth book so

1374
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:13,020
hopefully it'll be out hopefully later

1375
00:58:17,299 --> 00:58:15,450
this year but now things are slowed down

1376
00:58:20,210 --> 00:58:17,309
so we'll just have to wait and see when

1377
00:58:22,069 --> 00:58:20,220
we can get it out well I'll stand once

1378
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:22,079
again thanks for coming on the show and

1379
00:58:28,250 --> 00:58:25,680
for keeping us updated and my friend

1380
00:58:29,900 --> 00:58:28,260
will be talking soon okay and if people

1381
00:58:32,779 --> 00:58:29,910
want to check my website it's Stan

1382
00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:32,789
Gordon dot info and my books are

1383
00:58:38,750 --> 00:58:36,089
available at amazon.com as well very

1384
00:58:40,579 --> 00:58:38,760
good well Stan thanks again and I'll be

1385
00:58:42,940 --> 00:58:40,589
talking to you soon all right well I

1386
00:58:45,529 --> 00:58:42,950
have a good evening thank you take care

1387
00:58:47,269 --> 00:58:45,539
now if you have an unexplained encounter

1388
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:47,279
sighting feel free to contact me through

1389
00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:49,200
the families of monsters blog site if

1390
00:58:53,359 --> 00:58:51,569
you're interested in supporting fans of

1391
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:53,369
monsters in arcane where you you can use

1392
00:58:58,190 --> 00:58:56,160
a PayPal donation buttons on the blog

1393
00:59:00,890 --> 00:58:58,200
and newsletter your continued support

1394
00:59:03,380 --> 00:59:00,900
that's truly appreciated my new book

1395
00:59:06,109 --> 00:59:03,390
winged cryptid humanoids monsters and

1396
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:06,119
anomalous creatures casebook is now

1397
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:10,170
available on amazon.com I want again

1398
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,089
thanks Stan Goering for joining me this

1399
00:59:16,220 --> 00:59:14,400
evening and I want to thank you for

1400
00:59:18,769 --> 00:59:16,230
listening to the show good night

1401
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:18,779
stay healthy and have a safe and

1402
00:59:27,330 --> 00:59:30,040
you

1403
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